Progressively … regressive?

November 5, 2008 at 11:13 am 17 comments


Now how did this happen?

How does Florida put on her big-girl britches and grow up enough to elect my boyfriend as the 44th President of the United States yet vote to uphold a constitutional ban on same-sex marriages?

What the eff?
I thought we were on the same progressive-everyone-is-equal page here, folks.

So we’re blue — but it’s really more of a cornflower hoping to mature into a full-on navy at some point? Is that it?

::: *sigh* … baby steps … ::: 

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17 Comments

  • 1. Ryan  |  November 5, 2008 at 11:45 am

    It’s sad. Very sad. We can elect a Democrat in Florida, but bigotry and hatred still carry the day.

    (And, when you look at the exit poll numbers, you’ll probably see that the very large African-American turnout was a double-edged sword for gays in Florida. African-Americans supported Obama, but overwhelmingly voted to deny equal rights to gays.)

  • 2. curious  |  November 6, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    just goes goes to show that values are not based on race. being discriminated against because of the choices you make does not compare to racism. i can see how they would be offended being compared to homosexuals.

    looks like cali, the gayest state in the union, no longer wants to be fag-friendly either. so much for GAYvin newsome. i guess that will make about 30 states banning gay marriage now.

    why don’t homosexuals do something a little more constructive with their time and money? the 40 million dollars they spent trying to defeat prop 8 could have been spent educating people of the dangers of homosexual activity (aids) especially among males. no, that would have made too much sense and would require the homosexual community to be responsible for their actions. that will never happen…

  • 3. lifeisacookie  |  November 6, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    Gavin Newsome is a hot piece, ‘kay?

    And, just for the record – I didn’t make a ‘choice’ to be straight or pigment deficient any more than Ellen DeGeneres ‘chose’ to be gay or Michelle Obama ‘chose’ to be black.

    I did ‘choose’ to be a redhead for a while, but that was just a crazy phase I was going through …

  • 4. Type Writer  |  November 6, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    I thought you were cute as a redhead 🙂 But I’m kinda depressed that even after a landslide victory for our guy, we still have to deal with ignorant people on the Internet…

    TW

  • 5. lifeisacookie  |  November 6, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    I prefer to keep them on the internet – I think they’d scare me (or hurt me) in person …

  • 6. curious  |  November 6, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    no cookie, we would be cool. i don’t really care what your sexual preference is but it is a choice. everything you do is a choice. do you think people who sleep with little kids have a choice? what about those who prefer 4 legged animals? should we make those marriages legal? not comparing homosexuality to the last 2 but where does it end?

    my point is morality is not determined by skin color. so why are you offended that the silent majority made the right choice. you can’t compare homosexuality to race.

    btw. i don’t have much hair left so i can’t commment on that. but again, why aren’t homosexuals concerned more with stopping a horrible disease than worrying about being legally married? that would mean being personally responsible for the majority of aids cases in america. look at the cdc statistics.

    TW… i do wish “your guy” luck because he is my guy too. not that i voted for him but i am loyal to my country and that includes our commander in chief. i made that oath over 20 yrs ago when i joined the army. nothing has changed. as much as i disagree with your opinions i will defend your right to voice them.

  • 7. lifeisacookie  |  November 6, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    But wait a sec there, Big C! You’re tallking about two different things here.
    Sexual preference is, to me, akin to blood type, hair color, eye color, skin color, predisposition to cancer or tubal pregnancy and the like — genetically based, unalterable — part of the package you get from dear ol’ mom and dad.
    I didn’t choose to dig dudes — just worked out that way. [although I will admit to an intense girl crush on a sweet gal who’s initials are Angelina Jolie, 😉 ]

    But this is an argument that’s gone on for years — is it genetic or is it a choice. I don’t know that we’ll solve it here but I enjoy the discussion … I also believe that the last sentence of your post is spot on — it’s healthy to have differing opinions (how boring if we were all Stepfords!) but equally healthy and important to respect the differences.

  • 8. curious  |  November 6, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    thats what i was saying. lol. why would anyone compare the vote against homosexual marriage to racial inequality. i would think that would be a slap in my face if i were black. you can’t change your skin color, except for MJ, but you can have a say in who you sleep with.

    i have never given a second thought to your gender, until now, or your sexual preference and i couldn’t care less. it is your views that are important to me.

    oh, i found out a little more about julie and mike williams when i went home last weekend, but i didn’t have time to get over to thomas reed’s chicken shack.

  • 9. lifeisacookie  |  November 7, 2008 at 12:21 am

    now Big C — that’s not what I was saying re: your first graph there … oh but you do persist!

    On the Williamses — good? bad? neutral?

  • 10. curious  |  November 7, 2008 at 12:48 am

    just figured out who she is. her husbands name threw me at first. i hate to say everything i know on here because i know them personally and we have a lot of mutual friends. you could contact me through email…

  • 11. lifeisacookie  |  November 7, 2008 at 11:15 am

    mmm’okay!

  • 12. Type Writer  |  November 7, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    TW… i do wish “your guy” luck because he is my guy too. not that i voted for him but i am loyal to my country and that includes our commander in chief. i made that oath over 20 yrs ago when i joined the army. nothing has changed. as much as i disagree with your opinions i will defend your right to voice them.

    Curious, I appreciate the sentiment you express above, but I have to wonder why it took an electoral victory for you to suddenly decide to treat me with respect. Does this mean that if Obama weren’t on his way to becoming the next Commander-In-Chief, you would still be characterizing me as an uneducated drug-addicted homosexual welfare recipient, even though you don’t know a thing about me?

    And why was it okay when Obama was a candidate to bring up every racial stereotype in the book in relation to him? As a newly-minted American citizen who just voted in his first election, it’s disturbing to me that I can’t have a political discussion with a fellow American without it trending towards the lowest common denominator…

    And while I assume you were just trying to be provocative or smart–alecky when you made those remarks, that still doesn’t make them right and does not reflect well on the people of your fair state. (But luckily I already knew Cookie well enough to not have a generally bad impression of white Alabamanians.)

    In short, Sir, while I appreciate your willingness as a military person to defend my right to have an opinion you don’t agree with, I also need to treat me with respect always when you converse with me, and not just when “my” guy wins… If you can do that for me, I assure you it will be reciprocated…

    Sheldon Robertson (because this post is too important to be signed anonymously)

  • 13. curious  |  November 7, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    i couldn’t care less what color obama is. i disagree with his his anti-american associations such as ayres, wright, farrakan and who knows who else. if i had associated with his pastor and terrorist mentors then i could have never have cleared my background checks in the military. now he will have access to the most sensitive info anywhere. you have already seen how his campaign sent out his goons to destroy anyone who opposed or questioned his policies. just wait till he has real power.

    i will support obama and respect him in a way dems never respected or supported bush. i bet you never said that in 2000 or ’04.

    as far as showing respect for you, i recall you bashing me from my first post because you didn’t agree with my statements. every post i saw on here was bashing someone for their beliefs. i know you would like to think you are always right and all conservatives were idiots but as long as i am around i will state the facts as i see them.

    now after i have sex with my sister i think i will get out the farmall and start getting my fields ready to plant watermellons next summer. i get the feeling they will bet the next big thing. i already bought stock in tyson chicken. oh, and don’t take yourself so serious.

  • 14. lifeisacookie  |  November 7, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    Are you guys dukin’ it again?!?
    I thought we were all friends and gonna make happy music together under our ‘Agree to Disagree’ flag … no?

    Men …

    I take TWO seconds to go and meet my deale … err … ‘agent’ — all hell breaks loose!

    Y’all are gonna make me rethink my no-holds-barred commenting policy!
    Now kiss and make up … and take pictures so I can see!

  • 15. Type Writer  |  November 7, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    > Are you guys dukin’ it again?!?

    No contest, babe; Type Writer by unanimous decision…

    > thought we were all friends and gonna make happy music together under our ‘Agree to Disagree’ flag … no?
    >
    > Men …

    Hey, now you’re stereotyping too. Maybe curious and I can finally come together and lob some women stereotypes your way…

    > I take TWO seconds to go and meet my deale … err … ‘agent’ — all hell breaks loose!

    I’d comment on that, but I don’t want to stereotype my nationality 🙂

    > Y’all are gonna make me rethink my no-holds-barred commenting policy! Now kiss and make up … and take pictures so I can see!

    What you’re suggesting just got made illegal in the Florida constitution (See how I was able to get this thread back on topic? Nice, huh? Sometimes those self-policing things have a way of working themselves out)

    TW

  • 16. lifeisacookie  |  November 7, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    well, I feel confident I would debunk all stereotypes for females.
    I hate to shop
    I do not cook
    I LOVE (love, love, love) football
    I play fantasy sports
    I do my own hair and nails
    I think flowers are a waste of money

    Yes, you can say it — I’m perfect 😉

    ACK!!! – coughing fit!!

  • 17. Type Writer  |  November 11, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Yes, you can say it — I’m perfect

    I’ve known that for a long time 🙂

    TW


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